Question:
Could someone answer the following qustions concerning self
detox from sniffing 12 bags of heroin a day, using methadone,
benzosss and clonidine.
I have 140 mg of methadone, i will wake up on the morning i
decide to do this and i will wait until i get a little sick.
Then i will take a tablespoon of meth. if still sick after an
hour will take one more tablespoon. I capful of meth. is equal
to 1 tablespoon of meth.........How many milligrams is that? i
will take 1 MG xanax and 5 mg of valium, i will take the benzos
4 times a day. i will take the clonidine .02 twice a day. I will
take another dose of meth about 12 hours after taking the first
one with an OTC sleeping pill. i will do this until i run out of
meth....after third day i will start cutting down on meth.
Is this the right way to do this? any other suggestions? Also if
i am not too sick i will try to attend NA meetings. i also have
Darvecet should i take this too with the meth. will it cause a
reaction?
Answer:
Was I mistaken or are you also dependent on bezos as
well as heroin and clonidine?
My suggestion, having no experience with clonidine, would be for heroin
dependence only:
Day 1
20 mgs methadone morning and night.
xanax or valium for sleep.
clonidine, your call.
Day 2
15 mgs methadone morning and night
benzo for sleep.
clonidine, your call.
Day 3
15 mgs methadone morning and night
benzo for sleep.
clonidine, your call.
Day 4
10 mgs methadone morning and night
benzo for sleep
clonidine your call
day 5
10 mgs methadone morning and night
benzo for sleep
clonidine your call
day 6
5 mgs methadone morning and night
benzo for sleep
clonidine your call
day 7
no methadone
benzo for sleep
clonidine your call
you might want to try dxm 15 - 20 mgs every 4 hour.
day 8
your call good luck
see day 7
Personally sounds like a recipe for disaster. Why not go to a Methadone Clinic
(at least) and (at least) go on a 90 day detox, and then (for the real fun
part) go inpatient to address your benzo dependence (assuming you have one.
Otherwise you'll be flkopping like a fucking fish out of water and shitting
yourself.
I just came out of methadone detox and I wish I had been more 'with the
program' when I checked in. I don't have a clue as to how many milligrams
of methadone I was started out on but then again I wasn't snorting that much
heroin a day either. I was dosed based on shooting 6 bags a day though.
Whatever they gave me originally didn't hold me and they did have to up the
dose and I do know that on the second day they cut whatever I was getting in
half and then decreased the amount by 2 mg every day after that. After they
upped my dose and replaced my usual 2 .5 mg of xanax a day with ativan
(don't have a clue to how much of this I was getting other than 3 pills a
day) for the anxiety, I was feeling okay. Now they dosed me twice a day,
once at 8 am and once at 8 pm. I believe for some reason that the morning
dose was higher than the evening. Aside from the first night in detox when
I was in full withdrawal and the methadone dose wasn't high enough, sleep
wasn't really a problem. This was a surprise because of the fact that I was
basically in an uncomfortable place under uncomfortable conditions and a
little scared on top of everything else. Out of the eight days there, only
once did I actually need a sleeping pill (while everyone else was eatting
them like candy) and then I had the worst nightmares ever. I was already
six days into detox by then and I think the lack of 'doing' anything other
than laying around watching tv was the cause of that. Aside from attending
two meetings a day, all there was to do was lay around and walk down the
hall for the occassional cigarette which lost most of it's value once there
wasn't a significant amount of opiates in my system. I did meet some of the
stangest if not the sickest people I've ever met in my life while I was in
detox, that much I do know. This detox was for alcoholics as well as opiate
abusers and though the alcoholics got out of that place sooner than us
opiate addicts, for the most part they were in far worse shape. Most were
brought in from the street, wherever they passed out, whereas the heroin and
pill junkies brought themselves in for one reason or another. The majority
of the heroin users/abusers were in actual withdrawal (me included) when we
checked in as well. It wasn't by choice in my case, but a stipulation in my
health insurance policy that required me to be in actual withdrawal before I
could be admitted. If I had been smarter, I would've checked in and then
used while I waited the nine hours in the ER like alot of the other patients
did. I've never been to a detox before and didn't realize I'd have to wait
that long in full-blown withdrawal before I'd receive any kind of relief.
And then it was half-assed relief while the doctors figured out where I
stood on the opiate abuser scale. This was by far the longest nine hours
I've ever waited, cold, shivering, scared and all alone in an ER room
knowing that they could relieve my pain but wouldn't until I was officially
on the detox floor. So at 1 am I finally get to where I needed to be, was
handed some methadone mixed with cranberry juice and from there on out I was
forced to fend for myself. With no sleep and no xanax, the light of day
only deepened my despair and I did make a desperate phone call home to see
if maybe I could come home. I'm told that I was rambling about being scared
and in a place that I didn't belong, around people that I didn't need to
ever see in my life and that I was going to kill myself before the day was
out if I didn't get out of there. By the time the doctor got around to
seeing me that afternoon at 3 pm I was a real mess. I had been in
full-blown withdrawal for 24 hours and had only a taste of methadone. In
fact I wouldn't have seen him at all if the nurse hadn't summoned him with
all the patients on his list. I was too far gone to ask for him myself and
honestly I thought that maybe this was what detox was supposed to be like.
Lay there and suffer with the only attention being a nurse taking your vital
signs twice a day. It wasn't supposed to be that bad and they fixed that
part of it once the doctor saw me. But having rambled on here now, all I
can say is that if you have the willpower and the methadone to take care of
your situation at home, I would strongly suggest that you do it that way.
Maybe not every detox is like this, and outside of the first 24-28 hours, I
suppose it wasn't all that bad. But I wish I could've had what was needed
to take care of this at home and saved myself from the hell that was the
beginning of my stay in detox. In fact, I think it went beyond hell as I
was in a place and a situation that I hope I never find myself in again.
Why I didn't walk out I don't know because alot of people did.
Unfortunately walking out wouldn't have changed a damn thing about my life
whereas today, now being back home, I think something has changed. Not just
about my using heroin either. Things at home are a little more
'understanding' and I was actually given a hug by my S/O when I got in.
Whether they stay this way or not is up in the air...and since he thought I
was being detoxed off just my xanax, things aren't completely out in the
open. Tomorrow I check into an outpatient program but as far as NA, there
isn't any meetings in my town.
